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Stocks jumped upward to new near term highs today – on exuberant enthusiasm – nothing much else.
Gold started back up, and Oil and gasoline jumped massively – only speculation could cause the volatility we have seen in the past two days in the energy futures market.
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<p> <![endif]--><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Stocks jumped upward to new near term highs today – on exuberant enthusiasm – nothing much else.</p>
<p>Gold started back up, and Oil and gasoline jumped massively – only speculation could cause the volatility we have seen in the past two days in the energy futures market.</p>
<p><strong>In the news today&#8230;..<br />
</strong><br />
<strong>Bond Auctions yesterday and today</strong> – were much weaker than expected – driving interest rates up.  The rumors on the street say that the Chinese purposely stayed away from the auction as a warning to the Treasury that the US must listen to them.  Whether this is true or not, interest rates went up, and this auction was one of the worst ones in a long, long time.  This is how increased interest rates will hit the US economy – wait and watch.</p>
<p><strong>Jobless Claims</strong> – hit 586,000 last week, and was higher than expected.  Analysts think the number jumped because previous week’s numbers were artificially lower due to the auto industry hiccups.  Conclusion – unemployment is continuing to go up.  Oh, by the way, did you hear that unemployment offices are scrutinizing people making these claims to insure they are truly unemployed, and truly looking for work.  If they fail the test, they are put on the list of people “not actively” looking for work, and don’t count in the unemployment statistics.  Just your government working to keep the politically sensitive unemployment number down.</p>
<p><strong>Oil Supplies</strong> – are ballooning in most importing countries right now.  Experts are predicting that oil and its derivatives, like gasoline, will fall $10 to $15 where the fair value is about $50 to $55/barrel.  Natural gas is plentiful in the US, and recent finds in Louisiana can supply the entire US demand for 20 years.<br />
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<strong>Here are the last numbers for today:<br />
Dow Jones 30 Industrial &#8211; 9154 (up 84 points)<br />
10 Year Treasury Bond &#8211; 3.64% (down 0.02%)<br />
Euro &#8211; $1.4067<br />
Gold &#8211; $937 (up $8)<br />
Oil &#8211; $66.93 (up $3.58)<br />
Gasoline $1.99 (up $0.14)<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[Stocks plummeted today, down 201 points.  Perhaps reality is setting in.
Bonds gained dramatically (decreased interest rates) &#8211; a nice move for us.
The Dollar strengthened one cent against the Euro.
Oil and gasoline were hit again, and have come well of their recent highs.  Sanity appears to be coming back into the oil price.  My personal belief [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt">Stocks plummeted today, down 201 points.  Perhaps reality is setting in.</p>
<p>Bonds gained dramatically (decreased interest rates) &#8211; a nice move for us.</p>
<p>The Dollar strengthened one cent against the Euro.</p>
<p>Oil and gasoline were hit again, and have come well of their recent highs.  Sanity appears to be coming back into the oil price.  My personal belief is that oil should be around $50/barrel, and everything above that number is caused by speculators.</p>
<p>Gold fell again, and is now a time to consider buying gold again.  If gold falls below $900/ounce, it will definitely be time to buy.</p>
<p><strong>Today’s News&#8230;&#8230;<br />
</strong><br />
Nothing much happening in the financial news.  The real news is in Iran, and N. Korea.</p>
<p><strong>Here are the last numbers for today:<br />
Dow Jones 30 Industrial &#8211; 8339 (down 201 points)<br />
10 Year Treasury Bond – 3.69% (down 0.10%)<br />
Euro &#8211; $1.3861<br />
Gold &#8211; $922 (down $15)<br />
Oil &#8211; $66.93 (down $2.62)<br />
Gasoline $1.86 (down $0.06)</strong> </span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everything moved sideways today.  Stocks were up and down and ended up 48 points.
Bonds were the only market which ended significantly higher (lower interest rates) as people worried about the economy (see articles below.)  Remember that the bond market is much more sober and realistic as a market compared to the stock market, or commodities.
In [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Everything moved sideways today.  Stocks were up and down and ended up 48 points.</p>
<p>Bonds were the only market which ended significantly higher (lower interest rates) as people worried about the economy (see articles below.)  Remember that the bond market is much more sober and realistic as a market compared to the stock market, or commodities.</p>
<p><strong>In the news today&#8230;..<br />
</strong><br />
The Treasury has decided it should give our TARP money to Insurance Companies too.  I guess the insurance companies must be in trouble.  Remember the psychology of TARP – it was forced on the banks, and they couldn’t say “no.”  I wonder if the insurance companies will be in for the same treatment?  The rationale is that if the “market” doesn’t know which insurance companies are “bad” and which ones are “good”, the market won’t be able to drive down the value of the bad companies and cause them to become “bankrupt” because their share value is so low – as happened with the banks.</p>
<p>But, that was the reason the Treasury has never told us which banks took the TARP, and how much they took.  But, someone (insider knowledge??) found out and drove the value of these crummy banks down.  I guess the Treasury isn’t as smart as it thinks it is.</p>
<p>Some insurance companies are also BANKS today.  The ones that are banks, and therefore automatically qualified to receive TARP money, are Prudential, Met Life, Hartford and Lincoln.  That’s all.  Maybe more insurance companies are planning to become banks – just like the financial companies ALL become banks at the end of last year.  By the way, I smell a conspiracy about that change in status as all those “new banks” got billions of our tax dollars after they swapped over.</p>
<p><strong>FEDs March Meeting Minutes&#8230;..<br />
</strong><br />
The FED minutes from March’s FOMC meeting were released today, and the FED decision to “stimulate” the economy with $1.2TRILLION was based on the following:</span><span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ol type="1">
<li style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: list .5in" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">deteriorating economic outlook – falling production, higher layoffs than previously anticipated </span><span><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: list .5in" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">poor export orders – the US economy can’t count on exports helping keep production up </span><span><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: list .5in" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">thwart the continued deflationary pressures </span><span><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: list .5in" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">not worried about inflation, but was worried about depression. </span><span><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: list .5in" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">put long term bond prices up (decrease long term interest rates) by purchasing long term treasuries</span><span><o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ol>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"><br />
The FED reduced its GDP predictions for 2009 and 2010.  They previously stated the 3rd and 4th Q would have recovery growth.  They now say both these quarters will be ZERO growth.  That’s an amazing turnaround.  They previously stated that 2010 will have growth between 2.5% and 3.3%, but now predict 2010 will have very weak growth – and that means less than 1%.  The FED is finally getting its arms around the seriousness of the current economy.  The lesson here is that the FED (with its infinite wisdom) DIDN’T have its hands around the the economy as late as January.  Okay, they’re human too.</p>
<p>Here is my personal opinion:  The FED acted one week after the Chinese threatened to “pull the plug” on buying more US Treasuries.  The Chinese understand that higher interest rates means lower values of their bonds.  They also understand the future inflation produces higher interest rates, and they publicly stated that the Obama Administration’s spending plans would produce inflation.  The FED (coincidentally???) announced its US Treasury Bond purchase plans to keep interest rates low.  This mollified the Chinese to purchase more Treasuries in the near term as they are being “protected” by the FEDs use of taxpayer money.  (Please remember that when the FED buys Treasuries, they can lose money on those purchases just like any investor.)  The FED and the Treasury can’t fund the Obama spending without foreign nations purchasing dollar denominated US Treasuries, and if the Chinese stopped buying, everyone else would probably stop too.</p>
<p><strong>Stock Market Psychology&#8230;..<br />
</strong><br />
Here is something for you to think about.  The subject being debated, hot and heavy, today is whether or not stocks are in a new bull market, or is this just a bear market rally?</p>
<p>Market psychology says that a major turn in the market upward occurs when EVERYONE thinks the market will continue to go down FOREVER.  Also, when the first person says it is at a bottom, that person is publicly stoned to death (verbally speaking) with cynicism and criticism.  </p>
<p>That never happened when we hit the bottom last month and the market rallied over 20%.  In fact, there were lots of pundits saying we were “at the bottom” as the market dropped like a stone.</p>
<p>Just using “market psychology” this says that the bottom was NOT reached last month, but a lower bottom will be hit sometime in the future.  You can’t predict timing (i.e. <u>when </u>the bottom will be reached) using market psychology, but you can (usually) predict the trend – up or down.</p>
<p>Stock market psychology says that the recent rise in stocks is a Sucker’s Rally.</p>
<p>Herein ends today’s lesson.</p>
<p><strong>Here are the last numbers for today:<br />
Dow Jones 30 Industrial &#8211; 7838 (up 48 points)<br />
10 Year Treasury Bond – 2.85% (down 0.08%)<br />
Euro &#8211; $1.3260<br />
Gold &#8211; $886 (up $3)<br />
Oil &#8211; $49.38 (up $0.23)<br />
Gasoline &#8211; $1.44 (down $0.02)</strong>                   </span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stocks started up, went way down, and ended up 90 points.
Bonds got killed today as a Treasury auction didn’t go as well as it could.
The Dollar, oil and gasoline went sideways.  Oil supply appears to be at a high point right now.
Gold rallied and ended up again today.
In the news today&#8230;.

Good News?? &#8211; Durable Goods [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Stocks started up, went way down, and ended up 90 points.</p>
<p>Bonds got killed today as a Treasury auction didn’t go as well as it could.</p>
<p>The Dollar, oil and gasoline went sideways.  Oil supply appears to be at a high point right now.</p>
<p>Gold rallied and ended up again today.</p>
<p><strong>In the news today&#8230;.<br />
</strong><br />
Good News?? &#8211; <strong>Durable Goods</strong> – rose 3.4% over the previous month.  Is this a change in trend or just a blip?  I think it’s a blip.  Most of the gain was in military orders.  But, it nice to see something going up.</p>
<p><strong>Mortgage Applications</strong> – rose 3.2%.  This is caused by the new LOW mortgage rates.  3/4 of the applications were for REFIs.</p>
<p><strong>30 Year Mortgage Rate</strong> – is 4.63%.  This is a RECORD LOW (only since records are being kept since 1990.)</p>
<p>Not so good news – <strong>5 Year Treasury Auction</strong> – of $24B didn’t go well.  It was not subscribed as much as people hoped, and caused the initial stock market rally to fade, and then go way down.  (Stocks rallied at the end of the day.)  Shows how much influence bonds have on stocks.  If you remember the FED said it was going to start purchasing longer dated Treasuries.  This auction wasn’t one of them, but the folks with money are voting with their money.  What’s the problem?  Inflation caused by massive spending, bailouts, etc – just the printing of money worries people with money.<br />
 </p>
<p> <br />
<strong>Here are the last numbers for today:<br />
Dow Jones 30 Industrial &#8211; 7750 (up 90 points)<br />
10 Year Treasury Bond – 2.77% (up 0.12%)<br />
Euro &#8211; $1.3593<br />
Gold &#8211; $938 (up $12)<br />
Oil &#8211; $52.77 (down $1.21)<br />
Gasoline &#8211; $1.50 (down $0.01)</strong>  </span></p>
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		<title>Nervous Bond Market</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stocks moved all over the place, but ended going exactly sideway.  The Dollar, Oil and gasoline did the same thing.
Bonds, on the other hand, are extremely nervous about the high volume of US Treasury sales this week.  It should be a very bad week for bonds.  Today, the 10 Year Treasury moved over 3% &#8211; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Stocks moved all over the place, but ended going exactly sideway.  The Dollar, Oil and gasoline did the same thing.</p>
<p>Bonds, on the other hand, are extremely nervous about the high volume of US Treasury sales this week.  It should be a very bad week for bonds.  Today, the 10 Year Treasury moved over 3% &#8211; a massive move in interest rates in 6 weeks.</p>
<p>Gold fell back below $900/ounce, so it is testing the range once more. Wait to buy more gold until it closes above $920+.</p>
<p><strong>In the news today&#8230;..<br />
</strong><br />
Just lots of talk about the Stimulus Package.  Did you know that the CBO (the Congressional Budget Office) said that the House bill would have a NEGATIVE stimulus on the US economy????  Who says there isn’t a lot of politics in this process.</p>
<p>The Treasury Secretary postponed his announcement on TARP 2 spending until tomorrow, so nothing to report today.<br />
 </p>
<p><span style="color: #181818"><br />
</span><strong>Here are the last numbers:<br />
Dow Jones 30 Industrial &#8211; 8271 (down 10 points)<br />
10 Year Treasury Bond – 3.03% (up 0.05%)<br />
Euro &#8211; $1.3007<br />
Gold &#8211; $893 (down $22)<br />
Oil &#8211; $39.56 (down $0.61)<br />
Gasoline &#8211; $1.25 (no change)                                                                             </strong></span></p>
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		<title>Bond Bubble</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stocks claimed some sanity today, and fell 245 points in the face of the bad economic conditions.  Is this the beginning of the next meltdown of stocks?
Bonds went sideways, and many are saying that there is a “Bond Bubble” happening right now.  I tend to agree, but it could last longer and go deeper (in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Stocks claimed some sanity today, and fell 245 points in the face of the bad economic conditions.  Is this the beginning of the next meltdown of stocks?</p>
<p>Bonds went sideways, and many are saying that there is a “Bond Bubble” happening right now.  I tend to agree, but it could last longer and go deeper (in interest rates) than anyone thinks – as all bubbles do.  Another thing pointing to unusual movement on the bond market is its apparent “breaking” from moving in sympathy with the stock market – I’ve been noticing this over the past few months, and see a new pattern for bonds emerging – one that is driven by government bond actions.</p>
<p>Gold fell significantly, and is now a “buy”, as it is below $850/ounce.  The Dollar went sideways today.</p>
<p>Oil and gasoline fell today as worries about a “wild card” event in the oil markets is lessening, and supplies/storage appear high compared to demand.  This fortunately has lessened the chances of a gasoline price increase – at least a significant one.</p>
<p><strong>In the news today&#8230;..<br />
</strong><br />
Unemployment increases to be announced tomorrow moved the market downward today.  ADP (a payroll company with excellent data on employment – better than the US Government’s data) is showing a major increase to be announced tomorrow.  Today’s market has discounted that announcement – so that news by itself shouldn’t be a big deal tomorrow.</p>
<p>Consumer loan repayments are at their POOREST since 1980, and are expected to get worse.  This trend will only get worse by the increase in unemployment expected.</p>
<p>Commercial rents are down 1.2% last month – the largest decrease since 2003.  I think this trend will only get worse.<br />
</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><br />
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<strong>Here are Today&#8217;s numbers:<br />
Dow Jones 30 Industrial &#8211; 8770 (down 245 points)<br />
10 Year Treasury Bond &#8211; 2.49% (down 0.01%)<br />
Euro &#8211; $1.3634<br />
Gold &#8211; $842 (down $24) &#8211; now gold is a buy.<br />
Oil &#8211; $42.63 (down $5.95)<br />
Gasoline &#8211; $1.08 (down $0.11)</strong></span></p>
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		<title>Bond Supplies</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stocks fell slightly today.
Bonds had plenty of action with interest rates shooting upward – see article below.
The Dollar strengthened as oil is thinking that the US economy will be coming back fast – kind of illogical, but that’s the market.
Gold lost some of its luster, falling $22.
Oil and gasoline powered ahead as the Russia/Ukraine gas [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Stocks fell slightly today.</p>
<p>Bonds had plenty of action with interest rates shooting upward – see article below.</p>
<p>The Dollar strengthened as oil is thinking that the US economy will be coming back fast – kind of illogical, but that’s the market.</p>
<p>Gold lost some of its luster, falling $22.</p>
<p>Oil and gasoline powered ahead as the Russia/Ukraine gas situation, and Israeli/Gaza incursion is causing oil to command higher prices.  Gasoline is now at a level where pump prices should start to go UP!!!!!!  This is bad news for all the optimists in America who were enjoying the cheep gasoline.  Let’s hope oil prices fall soon.</p>
<p><strong>In the news today&#8230;.<br />
</strong><br />
Bonds were acting quite normally, and I want to take this opportunity to show you one way that interest rates can go UP.  This is happening right now. Why??  There is a big supply of bonds coming on the market right now.  Why???  Because the US Government has been spending so much money (and doesn’t have the money) that it must finance its spending by writing bonds, and selling them to whoever will purchase them.   The supply is truly astounding with new terms (like 3 year bonds) and rumors of 40 year bonds.  This level of supply is spooking bond traders, and interest rates are rising accordingly.</p>
<p>Consider the idea of a 40 year bond.  Why would the US Government want to sell 40 year bonds?  Simple in my mind.  Interest rates are at historic lows.  If they can get someone to buy these bonds – knowing fully that interest rates will be rising in the future – they will sell them at low interest rates now, and be able to pay those low interest rates for the next 40 years.  A neat trick if there are buyers – and there are buyers.</p>
<p><strong>International Trouble???<br />
</strong><br />
The Italian Government is (rumored) to be considering suing JP Morgan, Deutsche Bank and UBS for $47.5B of bad swaps they sold the Italians in the 90’s.  When things get bad, the people who lost their money go hunting for the guilty.  This unraveling of the financial problems will continue, and will continue to have downward pressure on the financial institutions and banks.  The size of this particular problem got my attention.</p>
<p><strong>Here are Today&#8217;s numbers:<br />
Dow Jones 30 Industrial &#8211; 8953 (down 82 points)<br />
10 Year Treasury Bond – 2.49% (up 0.07%)<br />
Euro &#8211; $1.3617<br />
Gold &#8211; $858 (down $22)<br />
Oil &#8211; $48.81 (up $2.47)<br />
Gasoline &#8211; $1.18 (up $0.07)</strong></span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Stocks were off today the entire day as US industry continues to disappoint with poor financial results.  FEDEX, for example, has reduced its forecast as shipping has fallen off in the last month alone.
Bonds was where the action was.  While the 10 Year Treasury showed some gains (decrease in interest rates), the short end was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 11pt"><font face="Verdana"> Stocks were off today the entire day as US industry continues to disappoint with poor financial results.  FEDEX, for example, has reduced its forecast as shipping has fallen off in the last month alone.</p>
<p>Bonds was where the action was.  While the 10 Year Treasury showed some gains (decrease in interest rates), the short end was amazing.  The 4-week bill sold a 0% &#8211; that’s ZERO percent interest – NO INTEREST.  Even more amazing was the 3 month bills selling at NEGATIVE interest rates.  This hasn’t happened much before in the US.  It happened back in the Great Depression, and it happened in Japan in the 90’s.</p>
<p>Everything else (gold, the Dollar, oil and gasoline) moved sort of sideways</p>
<p></font><font face="Verdana"><strong>In the news today&#8230;.<br />
</strong><br />
The number of Pending Sales of houses fell in October 0.8%.  This continues to be bad news, and just adds to the continuing downdraft of housing values.  Fewer houses being purchased means a higher inventory, and results in lower prices as there is more competition for any buyer’s dollars.</p>
<p>The US Energy Information Administration has forecast that we will be using 50,000 barrels/day less oil in 2008 that previously.  More ominously (for our economy) it is predicting that we will be using 450,000 barrels/day less in 2009.  How this works its way into the price of oil and gasoline depends on the supply side of the equation.  OPEC is not very organized and doesn’t cooperate within itself well, so who knows what the future really holds for oil prices.  Technically oil has support at $40/barrel, but if you see if falling into the $30’s, you know it will fall a lot further.</p>
<p></font><font face="Verdana"><strong>Tonight’s Dinner Conversation&#8230;..<br />
</strong><br />
What does it mean when interest rates go negative, or to zero interest?  What causes this to happen?  The cause is easier to explain – people just wanted to buy these US Treasury Bills AT ANY PRICE.  The price translated into negative or zero interest.  They wanted to buy at any price because they want SECURITY as we go into the end of the year, and they don’t know what’s going to happen.</p>
<p>What could happen?  That’s your homework for tonight.</p>
<p></font><strong><font face="Verdana">Here are Today&#8217;s numbers:<br />
Dow Jones 30 Industrial &#8211; 8690 (down 243 points)<br />
10 Year Treasury Bond &#8211; 2.67% (down 0.07%)<br />
Euro &#8211; $1.2918<br />
Gold &#8211; $774 (up $5)<br />
Oil &#8211; $42.07 (down $1.64)<br />
Gasoline &#8211; $0.94 (down $0.03)</font></strong></span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stocks soared today – all at the end of the day – after dropping several hundred points in the first half of trading – ending up 552 points.  Bonds foretold the stock movement and was losing value (increasing interest rates) during the entire day – but especially during the massive stock run up.  The Dollar [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 11pt"><font face="Verdana">Stocks soared today – all at the end of the day – after dropping several hundred points in the first half of trading – ending up 552 points.  Bonds foretold the stock movement and was losing value (increasing interest rates) during the entire day – but especially during the massive stock run up.  The Dollar lost value – especially during the stock run up.</p>
<p>Oil and gasoline went sideways – more or less.  Gold fell again – ending at $705/ounce – still a fantastic buying point.</p>
<p></font><font face="Verdana"><strong>My analysis of today’s stock movement&#8230;..<br />
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Today stocks retested the recent low (closing at 8175), and ended much higher at 8835.  I watched this activity today as it was obvious to me that today was the day for stocks to decide their future direction of movement – at least for the near term.  The retesting of their recent low means that stocks will recover for awhile.  Will they continue to go up?  Is this the bottom?  Those are the key questions, and here is my answer: “It depends.”  This could be the bottom, and it could be just a major correction in the bear market.  </p>
<p>My gut feeling is that this is a major correction in the bear market, and my reasoning is that the economy is just starting to fall over the cliff – and all the bad news is not in yet – and we cannot see the end of this crisis yet – and there is no good news yet.  All those things say that the bear market will continue as the bad news rolls out.</p>
<p>However, markets do not go in straight lines.  They go in fits and starts (2 steps forward and 1 step back) &#8211; and it doesn’t matter whether the major trend is up or down.  Take a look at any historic Dow Jones Industrial chart, and you will see what I mean.</p>
<p>Another interesting phenomenon was the BOND MARKET.  It was foreshadowing the stock move way before it happened today.  And it confirmed the movement by having a massive movement up in interest rates during the stock movement.  This is classic for the market conditions we are in right now.</p>
<p>Unique to today’s markets, the US Dollar collapsed when stocks soared in the afternoon.  I’ve been watching this phenomenon for the last month, and had concluded (and explained) that money was flowing to the US Dollar for two reasons.  First, it was a safer place for money than other currencies, and second, that currency swaps were being unwound, and money was flowing to the US Dollar and Japanese Yen.</p>
<p>Based on these observations, and my guess that stocks will continue going up for the near term, I predict that the US Dollar will continue to lose ground (against the Euro and most other currencies) during this same period.</p>
<p></font><font face="Verdana"><strong>In the news today&#8230;.<br />
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Jobless claims came in today at 516,000 job losses.  This is the first time this number has been over 500,000.  And, in my opinion, it’s just going to get worse – especially during November and December.  As an aside, this should have spooked stocks (and maybe that’s exactly what happened in the morning) rather than having the market go up today.</p>
<p>Foreclosures – 279,000 homes got notices in October, and 84,000 properties were repossessed.  The worst states were Nevada, Arizona and Florida.  It is anticipated that there will be over 1,000,000 bank owned properties “for sale” by the end of the year.  This is VERY BAD news for the market.  Please keep your eye on the housing market ball.  All the problems we are having with the financial sector are driven by the housing market meltdown.  As long as housing prices continue to fall – and they will continue to fall as long as there are more houses for sale than people want to buy – the toxic mortgage securities will be impossible to value (value in the future), and therefore will continue to provide RISK in our financial institutions.</p>
<p>Trade Balance– September was much better than previous months.  Why??  Because oil has come down in price, and we just don’t pay as much to overseas producers now.  The bad news is that the trade balance was a negative $56.5B, and 2008 could be a record trade deficit (or maybe equal to last year – the highest year ever).  The trade deficit with all those dollars coming home to America was the cause of the housing bubble money, and this issue must be addressed to prevent a future episode.</p>
<p></font><font face="Verdana"><strong>Tonight’s Dinner Conversation&#8230;.<br />
</strong><br />
What’s the difference between a recession and a depression?  Well, economyguy readers know that there is nothing different between then – officially or by definition.  However, current use of the terms implies that a depression is worse than a recession.  Worse in what measures?  I would guess those measures should be unemployment and GDP.</p>
<p>Our recent financial crisis was caused by toxic mortgage securities catching a bunch of banks around the world holding them, and NOT being able to value them.  That stopped almost all lending and caused a massive increase in LIBOR.  This scared the FED and Treasury into asking for a $700B “Bailout” of those financial institutions.</p>
<p>However, time has marched on.  What do you see happening now all around you?  People are scared, and they are definitely not spending the same amount of money in stores, restaurants, travel, etc.  That is causing a bunch of companies to start layoffs and even going into bankruptcy (like Circuit City or even GM possibly next year).  In my opinion, this “secondary” effect of the mortgage meltdown is pushing our economy from a recession into a depression.  And worse, it’s just starting.  Did you see the major announcement that the Mayor of Chicago said today?  He said that the big Chicago employers told him that there were going to be BIG layoffs starting this month in Chicago and that’s just the beginning.  Is Chicago unique?  Nope – it’s typical of almost all cities across America.</p>
<p>So the question for you to discuss tonight isn’t “What’s the difference between a recession and a depression?”  It is “Will there be a third phase of the depression getting worse in 2009, and what could push it in that direction?”</p>
<p></font><strong><font face="Verdana">Here are Yesterday&#8217;s numbers:<br />
Dow Jones 30 Industrial &#8211; 8835 (up 552 points)<br />
10 Year Treasury Bond – 3.81% (up 0.15%)<br />
Euro &#8211; $1.2769<br />
Gold &#8211; $705 (down $13)<br />
Oil &#8211; $58.24 (up $2.08)<br />
Gasoline &#8211; $1.30 (up $0.05)</font></strong></span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Stocks were buoyant and ended up 248 points.  This – in spite of the news on unemployment.
Bonds didn’t like the amount of new Treasuries coming onto the market in the future, and dropped in price – increased in interest rates.
The Dollar, Gold, Oil and gasoline all moved sideways – hard to believe.
In the news today&#8230;..

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 11pt"><font face="Verdana"> Stocks were buoyant and ended up 248 points.  This – in spite of the news on unemployment.</p>
<p>Bonds didn’t like the amount of new Treasuries coming onto the market in the future, and dropped in price – increased in interest rates.</p>
<p>The Dollar, Gold, Oil and gasoline all moved sideways – hard to believe.</p>
<p></font><font face="Verdana"><strong>In the news today&#8230;..<br />
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The Unemployment Rate jumped up to 6.5% last month.  The number of lost jobs were revised upwards in August and September – showing that the original information announced by the government was not accurate.  In other words – reader beware of government statistics.</p>
<p>Pending Home Sales dropped 4.6% last month.  This was a surprise due to the increase the previous month.  My interpretation is that home prices are continuing to decline and are a drag on sales.  Also, don’t take one month’s statistics as a trend – always wait for a few months.</p>
<p>Hedge Funds are sitting on a cash pile of $400B – that’s a lot of money.  Where did they get this cash?  They sold a lot of their assets – stocks, bonds, futures, etc.  That’s why these markets (especially stocks) have fallen so much.  Lesson to learn – when a stock broker tells you to stay with the market, and not sell, he’s just letting his buddies (hedge fund managers) sell at higher prices so they can keep their companies afloat.</p>
<p></font><strong><font face="Verdana">Here are Yesterday&#8217;s numbers:<br />
Dow Jones 30 Industrial &#8211; 8944 (up 248 points)<br />
10 Year Treasury Bond &#8211; 3.78% (up 0.07%)<br />
Euro &#8211; $1.2762<br />
Gold &#8211; $734 (up $2)<br />
Oil &#8211; $61.04 (up $0.27)<br />
Gasoline &#8211; $1.35 (up $0.01) </font></strong></span></p>
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